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01:01:44 PM Presentation: Amhs, Dayboat/alaska Class Ferry Design & Tustumena Replacement Ferry Design Updates by Rueben Yost~ Deputy Commissioner & Capt. John Falvey~ General Manager~ Alaska Marine Highway System~ Department of Transportation & Public Facilities
02:38:25 PM Adjourn
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Design & Tustemena Replacement Ferry Design
Updates by Reuben Yost, Deputy Commissioner
& Capt. John Falvey, General Manager,
Alaska Marine Highway System, Dept. of
Transportation & Public Facilities
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        February 4, 2014                                                                                        
                           1:00 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Eric Feige                                                                                                       
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doug Isaacson, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:     AMHS~  DAYBOAT/ALASKA  CLASS  FERRY   DESIGN  &                                                               
TUSTUMENA  REPLACEMENT  FERRY  DESIGN  UPDATES  BY  RUEBEN  YOST~                                                               
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER & CAPT. JOHN  FALVEY~ GENERAL MANAGER~ ALASKA                                                               
MARINE  HIGHWAY SYSTEM~  DEPARTMENT  OF  TRANSPORTATION &  PUBLIC                                                               
FACILITIES                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RUEBEN YOST, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint on the AMHS                                                                       
overview, Dayboat/ACF, and Tustumena Replacement Ferry Design                                                                   
updates.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CAPT. JOHN FALVEY, General Manager                                                                                              
Ketchikan Office                                                                                                                
Marine Highway System                                                                                                           
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Presented  a  PowerPoint   on  the  AMHS                                                             
overview,  Dayboat/ACF, and  Tustumena  Replacement Ferry  Design                                                               
updates.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:00:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PEGGY  WILSON  called the  House  Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 1:00 p.m.   Representatives Gattis                                                               
and   P.   Wilson   were   present  at   the   call   to   order.                                                               
Representatives  Feige, Kreiss-Tomkins  and Lynn  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:    AMHS,  DAYBOAT/ALASKA   CLASS  FERRY  DESIGN  &                                                               
TUSTUMENA  REPLACEMENT  FERRY  DESIGN  UPDATES  BY  RUEBEN  YOST~                                                               
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER & CAPT. JOHN  FALVEY~ GENERAL MANAGER~ ALASKA                                                               
MARINE  HIGHWAY SYSTEM~  DEPARTMENT  OF  TRANSPORTATION &  PUBLIC                                                               
FACILITIES                                                                                                                      
    PRESENTATION:  AMHS~ DAYBOAT/ALASKA CLASS FERRY DESIGN &                                                                
   TUSTUMENA REPLACEMENT FERRY DESIGN UPDATES BY RUEBEN YOST~                                                               
 DEPUTY COMMISSIONER & CAPT. JOHN FALVEY~ GENERAL MANAGER~ ALASKA                                                           
  MARINE HIGHWAY SYSTEM~ DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION & PUBLIC                                                              
                           FACILITIES                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:01:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  announced that the only order  of business would                                                               
be a  presentation:  AMHS,  Dayboat/Alaska Class Ferry  Design, &                                                               
Tustumena  Replacement  Ferry  Design  Updates  By  Rueben  Yost~                                                               
Deputy Commissioner & Capt. John  Falvey~ General Manager~ Alaska                                                               
Marine  Highway System~  Department  Of  Transportation &  Public                                                               
Facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:02:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RUEBEN YOST, Deputy Commissioner,  Department of Transportation &                                                               
Public Facilities  (DOT&PF), offered  to first present  a general                                                               
AMHS overview.   He  touched on  topics for  discussion including                                                               
the system  background data for fiscal  year 2014 (FY 14)  - look                                                               
forward, and  FY 15  Governor's requested budget  [slide 2].   He                                                               
then turned  to the organization/leadership  chart for  the AMHS,                                                               
noting he  serves as deputy  commissioner, Captain Falvey  is the                                                               
general manager, AMHS, and three  section heads report to Captain                                                               
Falvey,  including marine  engineering, operations,  and business                                                               
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:03:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  FALVEY,  CAPTAIN,  Alaska  Marine  Highway  System  (AMHS),                                                               
Department  of  Transportation   &  Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF),                                                               
reviewed the  organization chart,  relating the functions  of the                                                               
three  sections,  including  vessel construction  managers,  port                                                               
engineers,  planning, and  terminal  repair.   On the  operations                                                               
side, the functions include  the environmental, dispatch, safety,                                                               
and training  components [slide 3].   Additionally,  the business                                                               
development  section manages  the  administration  for the  AMHS,                                                               
such as terminals,  computers, and marketing.   The AMHS consists                                                               
of 1,030  personnel and the  slide shows the breakout  for vessel                                                               
operations,  terminals,  marine   engineering,  reservations  and                                                               
marketing, and administration.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:06:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN   FALVEY  next   discussed  the   fleet  composition   by                                                               
mainliner, Aurora  class, and shuttle  ferries categories  and by                                                               
age  [slide  4].    He  emphasized  that  the  older  ships,  the                                                               
mainliners, are  the biggest  ships.  He  turned to  the terminal                                                               
composition, consisting  of 35 ports  of call extending  from the                                                               
southern  terminus  at Bellingham  to  the  northern terminus  at                                                               
Valdez; the  western terminus at  Dutch Harbor; 17  ports located                                                               
in  Southeast  Alaska,  Canada,  and  Washington,  and  18  ports                                                               
located in Southcentral  and Southwest Alaska [slide 5].   Of the                                                               
35 ports  of call,  17 are state-owned  facilities, 4  are leased                                                               
facilities, and  14 are  privately owned.   He reported  that the                                                               
AMHS is  moving forward on  its new reservation system,  with the                                                               
12 unmanned  facilities targeted  to use  kiosks, similar  to how                                                               
Alaska Airlines allows  its passengers to self-ticket.   The four                                                               
leased facilities  are Bellingham,  Prince Rupert,  Seldovia, and                                                               
Kodiak.  He highlighted that  Prince Rupert is essentially state-                                                               
owned since the  DOT&PF executed a 50-year  long-term lease using                                                               
$3.4 million of federal funds to secure it.  The 14 privately-                                                                  
owned  terminals operate  under a  terminal use  agreement.   The                                                               
life-extending  or   large  capital   projects  are   managed  by                                                               
Southeast   Region,  Department   of   Transportation  &   Public                                                               
Facilities (DOT&PF) whereas his  staff handles annual maintenance                                                               
and repairs, such as bridge or electrical system repairs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:08:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST reviewed a map of  the AMHS route as compared to British                                                               
Columbia (BC) ferry system and  the Washington State ferry system                                                               
[slide 6].   He stated that the AMHS has  3,500 route miles, with                                                               
considerably  longer routes  than  the BC  ferries or  Washington                                                               
State ferries,  although they serve considerably  more passengers                                                               
and vehicles on much shorter routes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  compared the number  of vessel miles,  noting the                                                               
AMHS travels 550,000 total vessel  miles and the Washington state                                                               
ferries travels 900,000 total vessel miles per year.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:09:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST compared  the monthly traffic activity from FY  09 to FY                                                               
14, by  month [slide 7].   The passenger traffic varies  with the                                                               
season,  ranging  from  50,000  to 60,000  in  July  and  August,                                                               
decreasing  in  the  winter,  and  rising again  in  April.    He                                                               
indicated  the traffic  has been  fairly  consistent; however  in                                                               
recent years the passenger traffic  has increased whereas vehicle                                                               
traffic has  less variation and remains  fairly steady throughout                                                               
the  year.   Essentially  the  AMHS  functions  as a  highway  so                                                               
passenger   service  reflects   the   numerous  summer   tourists                                                               
traveling without vehicles.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY  added  that   approximately  two-thirds  of  its                                                               
ridership  during the  summer consists  of passengers  who reside                                                               
outside  Alaska  whereas  in  winter  two-thirds  of  the  AMHS's                                                               
ridership is  from Alaskans.   The AMHS  takes advantage  of this                                                               
and conducts  its maintenance in  the January to  March timeframe                                                               
each year.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:11:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY   referred  to  the  graph   that  shows  on-time                                                               
departures  and  customer  satisfaction  [slide  8].    The  AMHS                                                               
conducts  surveys and  customer  satisfaction remains  high.   He                                                               
related that  on-time departures  are gauged  on being  "within a                                                               
half hour" of  the published departure schedule.   He highlighted                                                               
that 40  percent of  passenger booking  are made  on-line without                                                               
using  a reservation  agent.   He hopes  the number  of passenger                                                               
bookings  will continue  to increase  under  the new  reservation                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  reviewed the operating expenditure  analysis from                                                               
FY 07-FY 13 [slide 9].   Personnel costs and fuel costs represent                                                               
80  percent  of the  AMHS's  costs.    Fuel delivery  costs  have                                                               
increased by $12 million since FY  07, having risen from $2.28 to                                                               
$3.50 per  delivered gallon.   He highlighted  that the  past two                                                               
years  have been  good years,  noting that  operating costs  were                                                               
$53.8 million  in FY 12  and $53.2 million  in FY 13  even though                                                               
the M/V Tustumena was not functioning  for nearly a year.  If the                                                               
M/V  Tustumena been  operational he  thought it  would have  been                                                               
record  revenue year  for the  AMHS;  however, now  that the  M/V                                                               
Tustumena is up and running revenues should increase.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:14:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  turned to  the FY 13  revenues and  costs, highlighting                                                               
that AMHS's revenues were $53.2 million  in FY 13 [slide 10].  He                                                               
explained  that  even though  the  AMHS  has been  carrying  more                                                               
passengers, the  vehicle deck represents the  most expensive part                                                               
of the ferries'  operations so nearly half the  AMHS's revenue is                                                               
derived  from transporting  vehicles.    Passenger and  stateroom                                                               
ticket  sales make  up the  remainder.   He referred  to the  pie                                                               
chart on the right of the  slide, which shows the operating costs                                                               
at $172.5 million.  As  Captain Falvey mentioned, personnel costs                                                               
make  up nearly  two-thirds  of the  operating  costs, with  fuel                                                               
costs comprising  22 percent.   The AMHS continues to  strive for                                                               
efficiency by reducing fuel and personnel costs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  explained that fixed costs  include $16.3 million                                                               
in  services,   of  which  $5  million   is  for  risk-management                                                               
insurance, $1.2 million is for  the Bellingham facility lease, $1                                                               
million  for bandwidth  to  run the  satellite  systems, and  the                                                               
approximately  $900,000  for  Prince  Rupert  lease  costs.    He                                                               
emphasized that employee wages and  benefits represent 61 percent                                                               
of  the costs,  with $2.6  million for  vessel employee  mandated                                                               
travel as per collective bargaining contract agreements.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:16:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST reviewed the FY  14 budget "looking forward," explaining                                                               
that  the AMHS  has strived  to  stay within  AMHS's budget  even                                                               
though  traffic numbers  have softened.    Currently, the  AMHS's                                                               
traffic is nine percent below the FY  13, in part, due to the M/V                                                               
Tustumena  not  operating last  summer.    Fortunately, the  AMHS                                                               
experienced  minimal mechanical  issues although  several ferries                                                               
were  cancelled due  to weather.   Further,  the new  reservation                                                               
system should further reduce costs  while increasing the public's                                                               
convenience.  While the AMHS had  a $3.5 million reduction in its                                                               
FY  14  budget,  the  budget reductions  were  addressed  through                                                               
service reductions and  to the greatest extent  possible tried to                                                               
avoid  any revenue  enhancements.    In fact,  the  AMHS has  not                                                               
raised fares since  FY 07, although it  eliminated some discounts                                                               
that did not achieve an increase in ridership.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  provided a status  report on the  new reservation                                                               
system.  The request for proposal  (RFP) is "on the street," bids                                                               
close on  March 15, and the  study should be completed  April 30.                                                               
Additionally, an AMHS  tariff study is underway with  the goal of                                                               
achieving "fair  and equitable" fees.   Still, keep in  mind that                                                               
the AMHS  provides different types  of service, such  as mainline                                                               
ferries, fast ferries, and the M/V Kennicott's service, he said.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:19:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  asked whether  the department  will review  the                                                               
findings and if  the committee could be briefed prior  to the end                                                               
of the legislative session.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  explained some  initial briefings  will occur,  but the                                                               
process is that  the commissioner sets the fares  and will review                                                               
any new  fare structures  with the governor  prior to  making any                                                               
decisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:19:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY provided  details on  the service  reductions for                                                               
the $3.5  million revenue reductions  for FY  14 [slide 12].   He                                                               
anticipated the  AMHS will meet  the $3.5 reductions  in revenue,                                                               
although management  has made some  assumptions.  He  stated that                                                               
the  AMHS's  approach   is  to  cut  costs   equally  in  service                                                               
reductions, revenue  enhancements, and administrative costs.   In                                                               
terms of  service reductions, he  described operational  cuts and                                                               
schedule changes  that will  be made by  either cutting  hours or                                                               
starting service later in the summer  for the M/V Lituya, the M/V                                                               
Fairweather, and the M/V Taku.   For example, the M/V Lituya will                                                               
run three  hours less per  day due to  a route change  which will                                                               
achieve  $200,000 in  savings.   The M/V  Fairweather will  begin                                                               
mid-May, in  part, due  to replacing  four new  engines; however,                                                               
the delay will result in an  estimated $800,000 savings.  The M/V                                                               
Taku typically  experiences a lull  in June; thus, it  will begin                                                               
on  July 1,  which  will result  in an  estimated  $1 million  in                                                               
savings.  Finally,  the AMHS has typically  budgeted $200,000 for                                                               
outsourcing service, for  example, to allow the  AMHS to contract                                                               
with Allen  Marine when a vessel  such as the M/V  LeConte breaks                                                               
down.  The AMHS  decided not to use this funding  and if an issue                                                               
arises the department will need  to request supplemental funding,                                                               
he said.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:22:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  reported revenue enhancements  [slide 13].   First, the                                                               
AMHS  reduced its  contracts with  travel  agents by  eliminating                                                               
commissions  for in-state  travel,  particularly since  passenger                                                               
self-bookings have  reached 40 percent.   Typically travel agents                                                               
received 10 percent  [of the fares].  This change  will result in                                                               
an  estimated $100,000  offset in  FY 14,  which is  estimated to                                                               
increase  to  $448,000  in  annual  general  funds.    While  the                                                               
decision  wasn't  popular with  travel  agents,  the AMHS  values                                                               
travel agents,  in particular, the  agent's ability to  bring new                                                               
customers to the  system through marketing efforts.   Second, the                                                               
AMHS discontinued  three seasonal discount programs,  including a                                                               
"30-percent winter  roundtrip discount," that  was on top  of the                                                               
"winter driver  goes free"  discount, and  "a summer  driver goes                                                               
free"  discount.   The AMHS  found  the discounted  fees did  not                                                               
increase  ridership.     Thus,  the  AMHS  removed   two  of  the                                                               
discounts, but  retained the "winter  driver goes  free" discount                                                               
since this provides Alaskans a break  at a time when the AMHS has                                                               
excess  vehicle capacity.   This  should result  in $650,000  and                                                               
$450,000, respectively, for  $1 million in overall  savings in FY                                                               
15, based on a full year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST turned  to the  tariff study  Captain Falvey  mentioned                                                               
earlier.   Although  the AMHS  previously conducted  a review  in                                                               
2008  focused on  providing service  to communities,  this tariff                                                               
review considers fares based on  standard of service.  Typically,                                                               
the AMHS's  standard of service  means a vessel runs  from "point                                                               
A"  to   "point  B"   and  stops  at   every  port   in  between.                                                               
Additionally, the AMHS  offers an express service  that runs from                                                               
Bellingham to  Ketchikan, Juneau, Yakutat, and  Whittier, as well                                                               
as service  from an  out port  to a  hub.   For example,  the M/V                                                               
Lituya  provides  a  single round-trip  service  that  runs  from                                                               
Prince Rupert  to Metlakatla, but  in doing so the  vessel cannot                                                               
be  used elsewhere.   He  summarized that  the AMHS  believes the                                                               
overall  pricing  should  be  based   on  the  level  of  service                                                               
provided,  such as  mainline ferry  service, express  service and                                                               
service to a hub.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:27:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY,  with  respect   to  travel  agent  commissions,                                                               
remarked that the changes are  going well.  The AMHS's management                                                               
supports paying  the ten percent  to agents to  attract potential                                                               
customers  from the  Lower 48  and  Europe.   Despite the  travel                                                               
commission  cuts,  the  AMHS  will   continue  to  move  military                                                               
families, but  the military  will deal  directly with  the travel                                                               
agents and  the commissions  are paid by  the military  direct to                                                               
the travel agents.  He reiterated  that the state will save money                                                               
with these changes but travel agents are still doing fine.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:28:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST turned  to the  FY 15  Governor's requested  budget and                                                               
related the  budget is similar to  the FY 14 budget  level [slide                                                               
14].  He reported the operating  budget is $165 million with fuel                                                               
at the  base price provides for  399 weeks of service  with 7,280                                                               
ports of call.  The routes  will maintain the same number of port                                                               
calls and continue  the twice monthly Bellingham  to Whittier run                                                               
during the summer, and twice a  month runs to the Aleutian chain,                                                               
which  allows  Kodiak to  have  weekly  service.   When  the  M/V                                                               
Kennicott is heading  south, the M/V Tustumena  is returning from                                                               
the Aleutian  chain run  and vice-versa,  when the  M/V Kennicott                                                               
returns  from  the Aleutian  chain  the  M/V Tustumena  heads  to                                                               
Kodiak.   He  acknowledged that  Kodiak experienced  less service                                                               
when the M/V Tustumena was out for repairs.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST continued the FY  15 Governor's Requested budget report.                                                               
The  capital  budget includes  funding  for  vessel overhauls  to                                                               
maintain the  U.S. Coast Guard's  (USCG) required  certificate of                                                               
inspections (COIs).   Additionally,  the fast vessel  ferry (FVF)                                                               
Chenega  is  scheduled  for new  engine  replacement  next  year,                                                               
noting  that one  vessel is  done  per year.   Further,  terminal                                                               
refurbishment and  vessel life projects  are scheduled,  with the                                                               
M/V LeConte  scheduled to undergo  a major winter haul.   Lastly,                                                               
the estimated revenue  is nearly $56 million, with  FY 13 actuals                                                               
at $54.3  million.  The  FY 14  operating costs are  estimated at                                                               
$54.4, based  on a  projected increase  in revenue  as well  as a                                                               
substantial  amount achieved  by eliminating  some discounts  and                                                               
reducing travel  agent commissions.   He cautioned  that revenues                                                               
represent  estimated  projections.   For  example,  revenues  are                                                               
adversely  impacted  with   vessel  capital  improvement  project                                                               
delays and  ridership depends on  the economy; however,  the AMHS                                                               
will know how  successful its strategies have been by  the end of                                                               
summer.   In  turn,  this will  help the  AMHS  plan next  year's                                                               
budget projections.   In terms of service, it may  be possible to                                                               
restore  some   of  the   M/V  Taku's   service  in   June  2015.                                                               
Additionally,  the  M/V  Matanuska  provides  service  to  Prince                                                               
Rupert  twice   a  week  via   the  M/V  Matanuska   although  he                                                               
acknowledged that the public would prefer four sailings in June.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:32:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY provided  an update on capital projects.   The M/V                                                               
Columbia, "the queen of the fleet,"  is getting new engines.  The                                                               
federally  funded project  to install  the new  engines is  going                                                               
very  well, on  budget, on  time,  and is  being accomplished  in                                                               
Portland.     Additionally,  the  M/V  Kennicott   is  undergoing                                                               
extensive  work  at  the  Ketchikan  shipyard  under  a  federal-                                                               
sponsored  project.    The FVF  Fairweather's  four  engines  are                                                               
currently being  installed.  He  anticipated this will  solve the                                                               
problems the  FVF Fairweather experienced  in rough  seas, noting                                                               
that sea trials will be conducted  next month.  The project is on                                                               
time,  on budget,  with the  engine manufacturer  paying for  the                                                               
installation, and  the new  engines include  warranty provisions.                                                               
Further, the  AMHS purchased  two spare  engines at  an extremely                                                               
reduced cost.   These have  been delivered and are  warehoused in                                                               
Ketchikan.  Next year, the  M/V Kennicott will undergo the second                                                               
phase  of  the  capital  project  and the  FVF  Chenega  is  also                                                               
scheduled to receive new engines next year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY  pointed out  that  the  twice monthly  run  from                                                               
Bellingham  to  Whittier has  resulted  in  increased revenue  of                                                               
about $3  million per year by  moving the terminal out  of Prince                                                               
Rupert.   He remarked that the  public and the military  love the                                                               
current  "express"  run  out  of  Bellingham.    In  response  to                                                               
Representative Lynn,  he clarified that  when he referred  to the                                                               
"chain"  he  was  referring  to   the  Aleutian  Islands  or  the                                                               
"Aleutian chain."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:35:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  asked about the AMHS's  outlook on                                                               
serving Prince  Rupert in terms  of ridership.  He  recalled last                                                               
year  the ridership  from Prince  Rupert  experienced a  downward                                                               
trend and was a drain on AMHS's operating funds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST answered  that the AMHS intends to  maintain its service                                                               
from Prince  Rupert.  In fact,  the AMHS just signed  a long-term                                                               
lease for  the terminal and plans  to rebuild the terminal.   The                                                               
M/V  Taku's scheduled  runs have  been delayed  due to  decreased                                                               
passenger traffic;  however, it is important  to maintain service                                                               
to  Prince Rupert  due to  van  shipping.   He acknowledged  that                                                               
since freight only represents one lane  of the car deck, the AMHS                                                               
must consider  the schedule.   The AMHS currently plans  to offer                                                               
twice-weekly service to Prince  Rupert from mid-September through                                                               
June but will  increase service to four times per  week from July                                                               
through September.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:37:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KREISS-TOMKINS   asked   whether   the   British                                                               
Columbia's (BC)  government cost  shares on capital  projects for                                                               
the Prince Rupert port.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST answered  no; that  the AMHS  negotiated a  fairly good                                                               
lease for  annual operating costs.   Due to the  long-term lease,                                                               
the terminal is essentially the  State of Alaska's (SOA) terminal                                                               
so BC is not participating in capital costs, he said.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:38:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON recalled problems  with van shipping due  to the                                                               
condition of  Prince Rupert's dock.   She asked whether  the dock                                                               
has  been  improved  to  an   extent  that  it  can  handle  full                                                               
containers since this is important during the fishing season.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY acknowledged  that five  years ago  the dock  was                                                               
essentially condemned.  Since then,  Prince Rupert invested a few                                                               
million dollars to repair the  dock.  Again, the AMHS anticipates                                                               
building a  new dock within the  next year and the  new dock will                                                               
be fully capable of handling full van containers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  asked  who is  paying  for  the  dock                                                               
improvements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  related that the  lease was secured  with federal                                                               
dollars at $3.4 million for 50  years.  Additionally, the AMHS is                                                               
using federal monies to rebuild the dock.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:39 p.m. to 1:40 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:40:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.   WILSON  turned  to   the  portion  of   the  DOT&PF's                                                               
presentation on the DAY BOAT and Alaska Class Ferries (ACF).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST turned  to  the slide  entitled, "Day  Boat  ACF."   He                                                               
provided a  refresher on  the vessel  mission requirements.   The                                                               
AMHS still plans on building two  day boats that will each handle                                                               
53  vehicles and  300 passengers.   He  reviewed day  boat vessel                                                               
specifications, noting the vessel needs  to be able to perform at                                                               
15.5  knots and  provide an  additional half-knot  at 85  percent                                                               
power.   Additionally, the  day boat needs  to be  a single-ended                                                               
vessel,  with drive  through  loading/unloading capabilities  for                                                               
rapid  load/unload of  passengers/vehicles,  with  bow and  stern                                                               
doors.   He  emphasized the  importance  of a  dedicated lane  so                                                               
passengers  do not  cross vehicle  lanes.   Finally, the  vessels                                                               
need to  be highly maneuverable  so significant time  isn't spent                                                               
backing the vessel.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST discussed  the next  slide  entitled, "Day  Boat ACF  -                                                               
Design Study."  He explained the  routes, noting the two day boat                                                               
vessels will replace the M/V  Malaspina, which currently provides                                                               
summer shuttle  service in  Lynn Canal.   The first  priority for                                                               
service  will be  Lynn  Canal;  the second  priority  will be  to                                                               
operate a short existing AMHS  route, including Hoonah, Gustavus,                                                               
and Tenakee; and the third  priority will be to provide potential                                                               
"Juneau  Access"  routes  from  Berners Bay,  if  required.    He                                                               
outlined  some operational  constraints,  such  that the  vessels                                                               
must  be able  to operate  using existing  terminals, except  for                                                               
Haines - which  will need an "N" berth  installed.  Additionally,                                                               
the day  boats must be  designed to use existing  vehicle loading                                                               
ramps  and   standard  walk-on   passenger  loading   ramps,  yet                                                               
efficient enough to use overnight  mooring since the vessels will                                                               
be tied to the dock for 12 hours per day.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:44:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST turned  to  the "Day  Boat ACF"  and  the major  design                                                               
decisions, some  of which  were controversial,  including whether                                                               
the vessel  would have  a closed-aft deck  design versus  an open                                                               
deck [slide  4].  He  highlighted some concerns, such  as traffic                                                               
volume issues  in Lynn  Canal, with high  summer travel  and much                                                               
smaller volumes in the winter.   Although some East Coast vessels                                                               
have  open   aft  decks,  the   AMHS  evaluated   concerns  about                                                               
protection from  the weather.   He  acknowledged that  while cost                                                               
reductions for  construction and  operating costs would  occur by                                                               
using  the  open deck  design,  the  AMHS decided  to  completely                                                               
enclose the car deck so this is no longer an issue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:45:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST discussed  the type of bow doors [slide  5].  The AMHS's                                                               
considered the M/V Bartlett's design  with knight's hood bow that                                                               
completely tips  up, but ultimately selected  the safety-features                                                               
of  the  side opening  doors.    He  showed several  slides  that                                                               
demonstrate  features of  the more  efficient side  doors, noting                                                               
the design does not have  projections so ice won't adhere [slides                                                               
6-11].   Additionally, safety features  include three  hooks that                                                               
latch the  doors shut, a  design that allows the  water direction                                                               
to work  to force doors  shut, as  well as a  completely separate                                                               
inner door.   These features  greatly reduce the likelihood  of a                                                               
catastrophic  failure such  as one  that happened  in the  Baltic                                                               
Sea.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST  reviewed the  Day  Boat  ACF major  design  decisions,                                                               
including considering the overall vessel  length and shape of the                                                               
hull, addressing icing conditions,  and eliminating forward guard                                                               
sponsons [slides 12-13].  Significant  concern was expressed that                                                               
the M/V LeConte,  the current vessel serving Lynn  Canal, was too                                                               
small and experienced icing  conditions during winter conditions.                                                               
He  said that  the  AMHS addressed  these  issues by  eliminating                                                               
forward guard sponsons, enclosing  life boats, and optimizing the                                                               
bow  shape.   The  current day  boat design  concept  is for  two                                                               
vessels 280  feet in length [compared  to the M/V LeConte  at 235                                                               
feet].   Additional testing  will be done  to ensure  the overall                                                               
length is adequate to transport 53 vehicles, he said.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  related a separate  sea-keeping analysis  was performed                                                               
in  late May  based on  95 percent  of prevalent  weather in  the                                                               
worst  months,  noting  the  remaining 5  percent  of  the  worst                                                               
weather is limited to  1.5 to 2 days [slide 13].   The study also                                                               
examined hull  lengths using  historical wind  speeds, direction,                                                               
and wave heights, as well  as calculating motion sickness indices                                                               
using  wave data.    The AMHS  found that  when  the hull  design                                                               
results in 10 percent of the  people feeling ill during the worst                                                               
two hours, it will result in passenger dissatisfaction.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  turned to the model  testing performed [slide 14].   In                                                               
addition to using  computer analysis, a 50-foot  wooden model was                                                               
built to test hull optimizations,  bare hull resistance, appended                                                               
resistance, seakeeping,  maneuvering, and bulbous bow  function -                                                               
which increases  fuel efficiency.   The  tests were  conducted in                                                               
October  2013   in  Denmark  [at  Force   Technology  in  Lyngby,                                                               
Denmark].  The  tests consisted of moving the  vessel through the                                                               
water to simulate various wave conditions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  discussed day boat  design development, turning  to the                                                               
subheading  entitled,  "MSI  vs.  Vessel  Length  &  Longitudinal                                                               
location" that  illustrated the model  test results for  a series                                                               
of hull  lengths [slide 15].   Since the M/V LeConte  has been in                                                               
service for many years the testers  were able to use actual data.                                                               
He  described   the  result  that  illustrates   the  effects  on                                                               
intermediate  lengths with  the bottom  green line  depicting the                                                               
M/V Taku.   He provided  specific details  on the effects  of bow                                                               
shape and  length, noting the left  hand side of the  chart shows                                                               
the accelerations  experienced at the 95  percentile weather with                                                               
the  axis  representing  either  the  motion  sickness  index  or                                                               
vertical acceleration in percentage  of G-force.  For comparison,                                                               
purposes, a  4.5 percent  G-force will result  in ten  percent of                                                               
passengers experiencing  motion sickness.  This  chart highlights                                                               
the reason  why passengers experience motions  above 4.5 percent,                                                               
no matter where  they are on the  M/V LeConte.  He  noted the M/V                                                               
Taku is well below this G-force  in the mid-stations.  He pointed                                                               
out the  blue line represents  the hull length  initially chosen,                                                               
the  three blue  "Xs" represent  the  actual test  data, and  the                                                               
selected hull  has more  acceleration at the  bow, but  is "right                                                               
on" in  the solarium and  towards the middle performs  well below                                                               
the predicted motion  for that length vessel.   He also concluded                                                               
that producing a vessel 45 feet  longer than the M/V LeConte will                                                               
greatly reduce  the motion,  but adding  a second  passenger deck                                                               
allows  concentrating  passenger   accommodations  in  the  least                                                               
motion part of the vessel so  this has been incorporated into the                                                               
design.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:55:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST discussed the principal  design element for the day boat                                                               
ACF  as compared  to the  M/V LeConte  [slide 16].   He  recalled                                                               
testimony  referring   to  the  proposed  day   boat  as  "little                                                               
shuttles."      However,  the   proposed   day   boats  will   be                                                               
approximately 45 feet longer than  the M/V LeConte.  Other design                                                               
elements also  affect performance such  as the beam  over guards,                                                               
draft, propulsion horsepower, and speed.   Wider beam over guards                                                               
will improve  overall stability  and the hull  will consist  of a                                                               
box chine  rather than a  rounded hull  for fuel efficiency.   He                                                               
discussed the  passenger and vehicle  capacity of the  day boats,                                                               
with  an  increased  passenger  capacity  of  53  and  having  an                                                               
additional  96  seats  for  passengers.    The  day  boat  vessel                                                               
capacity can  haul 19 more  vehicles than  the M/V LeConte  for a                                                               
total of  53 vehicles.   He stated that  the day boats  will have                                                               
similar  types  of   engines,  but  with  substantially-increased                                                               
horsepower  that will  allow the  day boats  to travel  1.5 knots                                                               
faster at 16.0 knots.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST  reported   that  the  vessel  design   is  85  percent                                                               
completed,  noting  the  end-view   schematic  shows  the  3-foot                                                               
passenger  walkway  that  will allow  passengers  to  embark  and                                                               
disembark without crossing vehicle car  decks [slides 17-18].  He                                                               
highlighted the  space arrangements,  including the  family space                                                               
area and  library work  space.   Reconfigurations were  made that                                                               
enhanced  access  for disabled  persons,  reduced  the number  of                                                               
four-person tables,  added more two-person tables  and banquettes                                                               
in the dining area,  as well as a group lounge  on the upper deck                                                               
for use by school groups.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:01:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  reviewed the  remaining schedule  and reported  that by                                                               
the end of  February, the AMHS will have a  final contract design                                                               
[slide 23].   He reported  that the AMHS received  two estimates,                                                               
one from  Alaska Ship and  Dry Dock  - Vigor Alaska,  and Elliott                                                               
Bay Design  Group.   He pointed  out the  confidentiality, noting                                                               
neither  entity  can  review  the other's  cost  estimates.    He                                                               
anticipated  receiving  estimates  by early  March,  followed  by                                                               
negotiations, with  the bid  being awarded in  May or  June 2014.                                                               
He  estimated  it will  take  two  years for  construction,  with                                                               
completion of  the first  day boat vessel  estimated in  May 2016                                                               
and the second day boat vessel in May 2017.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:03:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  whether the  vessels  will                                                               
have  a bulbous  bow and  the  pros and  cons of  using that  bow                                                               
design on vessels of this size.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY answered  yes; that  the  day boats  will have  a                                                               
bulbous bow.   The bow  design has  been improved over  the years                                                               
and will reduce wave resistance  and help the vessel move through                                                               
the  water  more  easily,  which  will  also  achieve  more  fuel                                                               
efficiency.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked   what  considerations  the                                                               
DOT&PF  has  taken  for  building  the  vessel  in  Alaska.    He                                                               
suggested that  everyone has  a vested  interest in  building the                                                               
day boat vessels in Alaska.  He  further asked for a sense of the                                                               
process the AMHS  will take when awarding the contract  to an in-                                                               
state or an out-of-state shipyard.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  answered that the  AMHS has not  set a dollar  value or                                                               
fixed  percentage it  will use  when  determining the  successful                                                               
bid.   He  said  the  most important  consideration  is that  the                                                               
vessels must be  built within the existing budget.   He explained                                                               
that if  the AMHS obtains  strong evidence through  a competitive                                                               
bid process that the vessel  can be built on budget out-of-state,                                                               
but  not  at the  Ketchikan  shipyard,  the  AMHS would  need  to                                                               
seriously   consider   whether   it  will   continue   with   the                                                               
construction management general contract  (CMGC) process.  In the                                                               
event that both estimates are  within the budget the commissioner                                                               
and governor will evaluate the project and make a determination.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  for  the  amount  budgeted                                                               
amount for the vessels.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST answered  that the  total construction  cost, including                                                               
design, is  roughly $117  million.  He  added that  this includes                                                               
$121  million appropriated  by the  legislature minus  $3 million                                                               
spent on design costs for the  350-foot vessel, much of which was                                                               
incorporated into the two day boat vessels.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:06:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  clarified that this doesn't  represent the construction                                                               
price since additional  design costs will be necessary  to get to                                                               
the   final   design   process.      Additionally,   construction                                                               
engineering  costs  are  necessary for  all  projects,  including                                                               
inspections  to monitor  the work.   The  typical overhead  costs                                                               
must fit  within the $117 million  or the AMHS will  need to find                                                               
the money from somewhere else, he said.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  added that  the funding spent  on the  larger ACF                                                               
design means  the AMHS  owns the  design, which  is well-archived                                                               
and could  be used if  the state  built another M/V  Matanuska or                                                               
M/V  Malaspina  style larger  mainliner.    He characterized  the                                                               
design as  being at the  point where it  would be easy  to design                                                               
cabins.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:08:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  asked  whether  he found  the  CMGC process  as                                                               
beneficial.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  answered that  the AMHS made  several changes  based on                                                               
input from ASD's  project estimator.  In fact,  the estimator has                                                               
been  involved since  the day  boat concept  began and  the "more                                                               
eyes" that review  the design the better, he said.   The AMHS has                                                               
implemented changes  that simplify the  design so it's  easier to                                                               
construct,  which  will result  in  better  prices regardless  of                                                               
which shipyard builds the day boats.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:09:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON referred to  slide 16, to the  vehicle capacity,                                                               
and noted the  capacity was increased to 53 vehicles.   She asked                                                               
whether  that  was  done  because  of  the  decision  to  have  a                                                               
completely covered deck.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST answered  no.    He said  the  number  of vehicles  was                                                               
increased to 53 after analyzing the  traffic in Lynn Canal and to                                                               
address  the  goal  to  accommodate  95  percent  of  the  summer                                                               
traffic.  He  elaborated that additional sailings may  need to be                                                               
added or  other vessels rerouted  to obtain  additional capacity.                                                               
The AMHS has tried to find  the "sweet spot" and achieve a vessel                                                               
that can  handle the bulk of  the traffic, yet still  be economic                                                               
to operate and seaworthy.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:11:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.  WILSON referred  to  the  AMHS overview  and  schedule                                                               
changes.     She  anticipated   she  would   receive  substantial                                                               
complaints from her constituents.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  understood some constituencies  would like the  AMHS to                                                               
offer  four  trips  out  of  Prince  Rupert  from  May-September;                                                               
however, the traffic figures have  declined since 2001.  The AMHS                                                               
evaluated the traffic  and does not think it  is frequency based.                                                               
The  AMHS concluded  it can  accommodate two  round trips  out of                                                               
Prince  Rupert,  except  from   July  until  mid-September.    He                                                               
understood some  of the interest  in round trips stems  from fish                                                               
and produce  shipments, which  the AMHS will  work to  provide as                                                               
the budget permits.  In 2005,  the AMHS expanded the fleet by two                                                               
fast ferries and  the M/V Lituya, but the  department must review                                                               
the level of service with respect to the cost.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:14:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  turned to  the next  portion of  the PowerPoint                                                               
presentation for a report on  the M/V Tustumena Replacement Ferry                                                               
Design.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:15:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY  reported  that  the M/V  Tustumena  was  in  the                                                               
shipyard  last  winter for  capital  overhaul.   He  offered  his                                                               
belief  that the  ship is  in very  good shape  and that  it will                                                               
provide a few more years of  very reliable service.  He said that                                                               
the  project  accomplished  everything  necessary,  but  it  took                                                               
longer than anticipated to complete.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY reported that the  replacement vessel fund balance                                                               
is $40  million and of that  $10 million will be  used for design                                                               
for  the replacement  vessel.   He reported  this vessel  will be                                                               
classed  to  operate  in  the  ocean,  not  just  near  coastwise                                                               
operations.  He pointed out  that classification societies exist,                                                               
but  the AMHS  will likely  use the  American Bureau  of Shipping                                                               
(ABS) classing  [slide 2].   The  ABS classes  all of  the AMHS's                                                               
steel ships  and the  replacement vessel  will be  constructed in                                                               
compliance with  ABS rules for  unrestricted ocean service.   The                                                               
machinery, boilers,  and systems  will meet the  AMS requirements                                                               
and the  vessel can carry  vehicles and passengers in  the ocean.                                                               
He pointed out big differences  exist between ocean and coastwise                                                               
travel                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:19:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY related  that the  vessel  will provide  domestic                                                               
service  within  50 nautical  miles  from  shore.   For  example,                                                               
certain  stability rules  apply  to vessels  traveling  up to  50                                                               
nautical miles from shore.  He  said it is important to note that                                                               
the  M/V  Tustumena is  296  feet  in  length, which  provides  a                                                               
benchmark.   The  replacement  vessel  will need  to  be able  to                                                               
travel to  all ports serving  the Aleutian Islands.   He recalled                                                               
the  M/V Kennicott  could not  travel to  five ports  due to  the                                                               
docks.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  said that  the goal  was to  serve each  port and                                                               
build a bigger ship so the  replacement vessel is designed at 325                                                               
feet in length and the hull  design will have a deeper draft hull                                                               
design.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY reviewed the vessel  specifications, such that the                                                               
replacement vessel  will be a  larger vessel  at 325 feet  with a                                                               
250 passenger  capacity compared  to the M/V  Tustumena's current                                                               
174  passenger  capacity.   He  compared  the replacement  vessel                                                               
stateroom,  vehicle, and  speed as  compared to  the current  M/V                                                               
Tustumena,  including it  will have  greater stateroom  capacity,                                                               
will carry 52  vehicles compared to the 36  vehicle capacity, and                                                               
it will cruise at 15 knots as  opposed to current 13.8 knots.  He                                                               
related  the  final  three   items,  the  reconnaissance  report,                                                               
environmental  analysis,  and  design   study  report  relate  to                                                               
deliverables of  the final  design.   He said  the reconnaissance                                                               
report  develops the  operating requirements,  and may  include a                                                               
rough  cost  estimate  and  recommendation   to  proceed  with  a                                                               
particular vessel under  a specific procurement method.   He said                                                               
the  AMHS is  prepared  to  use federal  funds  by including  the                                                               
environmental analysis.   Next, the  design study report  will be                                                               
developed, he said.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:23:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  asked for  clarification  on the  environmental                                                               
analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY  responded  it is  operational  but  covers  some                                                               
design.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST  added  that typically  a  federally-funded  vessel  is                                                               
excluded from  a full  assessment since  steel vessels  have been                                                               
found to  have little significant environmental  impact; however,                                                               
the AMHS  will review  any comments.   He explained  the process,                                                               
including that  the reconnaissance report is  issued, followed by                                                               
the  public comment  period, and  an environmental  analysis that                                                               
incorporates and addresses  any concerns.  For  example, when the                                                               
AMHS performed  the environmental  analysis on the  fast ferries,                                                               
one  ferry was  funded used  federal  highway funds  so the  AMHS                                                               
obtained a categorical exclusion  that documented the project was                                                               
excluded  from further  analysis.   He  offered  his belief  that                                                               
since Federal  Transit Administration  (FTA) funds were  used for                                                               
the FVF Chenega.   The FTA required an  environmental study since                                                               
some concerns  were voice about  high speed vessels  operating in                                                               
Prince  William  Sound that  could  affect  marine mammals.    He                                                               
suggested that  the AMHS won't know  for sure if any  issues will                                                               
arise until the public concerns  are received; however, typically                                                               
few concerns arise with steel replacement vessels.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:26:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY turned  to the design study report  (DSR) and said                                                               
that the  report reviews  all aspects  of the  project, including                                                               
routes, procurement methods, and  recommendations.  Each proposed                                                               
solution will be analyzed to  determine how well it satisfies the                                                               
project's  purpose.   He  briefly  noted  deliverables for  final                                                               
design, highlighting  the arrangement, scaling  calculations, the                                                               
superstructure, and  the complexity of the  process when building                                                               
the vessel [slide 6].                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:27:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY  turned to slide  7, which highlights  the project                                                               
milestones.   He  said that  the professional  services agreement                                                               
was awarded to  Glosten and Associates Team of  Seattle, which is                                                               
a  very large  naval architectural  and marine  engineering firm.                                                               
The  AMHS  has  frequently  worked   with  this  organization  on                                                               
projects  such  as  the  fast  ferries  and  the  M/V  Kennicott.                                                               
Additionally, he  said this  firm also  does significant  work on                                                               
federal projects,  are very aware of  the ships, and are  a large                                                               
and capable firm.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN FALVEY reviewed the timeline,  such that in December 2013                                                               
site  visits  were  completed  to assess  the  condition  of  the                                                               
terminals,  that  the  reconnaissance  report  will  be  done  in                                                               
February 2014,  that public participation  is scheduled  in March                                                               
and  April 2014,  including soliciting  public input  from Homer,                                                               
Kodiak, and  Dutch Harbor.   As Mr.  Yost mentioned, he  said the                                                               
environmental document  will follow  in May  2014 and  the design                                                               
study report  will be  issued in  June 2014.   He  anticipated it                                                               
will  take about  a  year to  design  the ship.    He showed  the                                                               
profile of  the concept profile  of the new M/V  Tustumena [slide                                                               
8].   He concluded that  the project  is moving along  quite well                                                               
and the steering committee is a strong steering committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:30:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  asked why  the M/V  Tustumena will                                                               
be larger.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY  answered  that the  AMHS  anticipates  potential                                                               
passenger  and  freight  growth  since  the  figures  are  slowly                                                               
increasing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  YOST added  that having  a longer  vessel translates  into a                                                               
more seaworthy  vessel, which  is important  since the  vessel is                                                               
the fill in vessel for the M/V  Kennicott.  In fact, one of three                                                               
of the  M/V Tustumena's trips  was delayed due to  the conditions                                                               
that were  too rough for the  passengers.  He concluded  that the                                                               
vessel  will be  a faster  vessel that  can handle  greater ocean                                                               
conditions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:32:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  related  his  understanding  that                                                               
freight  traffic  has been  limited  due  to  the lack  of  steel                                                               
reinforcement on  the car deck  sufficient to handle  the weight.                                                               
He said  it sounds  as though  freight is  the rationale  for the                                                               
Prince  Rupert terminus.   He  asked what  the AMHS  is doing  to                                                               
capture more  of the market,  with an understanding that  it must                                                               
be careful about competing with the private sector.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST somewhat disagreed that freight  is the fare driver.  He                                                               
reported  that   revenue  derived   from  freight   represents  a                                                               
relatively small amount  of revenue; however, it  is an important                                                               
part of  the AMHS's mission.   The  main revenue is  derived from                                                               
passenger vehicles  and passengers.   He offered his  belief that                                                               
one  outcome  of the  fare  study  might  be  that the  AMHS  has                                                               
relatively low  pricing for shipping  as compared to  the private                                                               
sector.  He  mentioned that in long ferry  runs refrigerated vans                                                               
plug into  ship's power, but  the system doesn't charge  more for                                                               
the power.  He said that the  AMHS must review all aspects of the                                                               
non-motorized  freight since  the  current  vessel requires  more                                                               
time in port to offload the vans.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:35:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  FALVEY, in  response to  an  earlier question,  answered                                                               
that the  fast ferries  have reinforced decks.   The  reduced van                                                               
weight capacity is necessary due  to the dock condition at Prince                                                               
Rupert.  Additionally, the majority  of the freight moving out of                                                               
southeast is fish and Prince Rupert  is used primarily due to the                                                               
enhanced speed needed to transport fish to market.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. YOST  added that container  vans affect the stability  of the                                                               
vessels so the  van capacity of M/V Malaspina, M/V  Taku, and the                                                               
M/V Matanuska  has not been  based on  the strength of  the deck,                                                               
but because of the stability pattern of the ship.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:37:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTIS  stated  that  she has  fond  memories  of                                                               
traveling on the M/V Tustumena  since she attended high school in                                                               
Cordova.   She said she  thinks it is  wise decision to  have the                                                               
longer replacement vessel  since it may result  in smoother rides                                                               
for passengers.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:38:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Transportation Standing  Committee meeting was adjourned  at 2:38                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Day Boat ACF Legislature Presentation 20140123.pdf HTRA 2/4/2014 1:00:00 PM
Tustumena Replacement ppt - Feb 4 2014.pdf HTRA 2/4/2014 1:00:00 PM
AMHS ppt 2014-FINAL1.pdf HTRA 2/4/2014 1:00:00 PM